talking with a long time elder last night, was very revealing.
he has been a jw for over 60 years, a man that was incarcerated in cuba in his early 20s and faced great loss and suffering over his beliefs and for being born in a communist country.
this brave man is now brittle and low-spirited.. while nightfalls on his life, he is made aware the end is near.
I've watched them die.
It's all about not admittiing that they made a mistake by following a particular religious leader in their youth. The more failures their religious leader had before they joined, the more important it is that they don't admit those failures to you, or themselves.
i mean to say it only takes a couple of posts to identify a troll , what do they hope to acheive ?
they only convince me, how stupid they are, with not a thinking cell in their brain .. do they think its another avenue to get fs hours in ?
do they think their going to convince one of us to go back to the kh.?
A WT apologist isn't a troll. They are simply a WT apologist that that needs your help but doesn't understand that yet, and you are the helper that doesn't understand how to help.
Learn what the definition of a troll is before you make accusations.
it seems every cong seems to have some guy who is 35 and never had a job or moved out of mom and dads basement.. i knew a guy who just hand out magazines at work so he would get eventually fired and could sleep in till noon everyday.
of course his elder father though he was a real matyr cause he kept losing jobs for jehovah.
i have an electrican friend who apprenticed some jw kid till he got his ticket and he quit him to pioneering.
My parents. 70 years preaching their church's promises on behalf of a god that never bothers to show up to stop them looking like nutters.
this week is the "special week", co is back.. he phone called me this morning asking to meet together.. i replied "i don't refuse people who want talking to me, but my condition is that you must be alone, and we meet in public space.".
he agreed and we will meet tomorrow in a cafe.. .
this week he already met with my wife in the kh, and he told her "i believe your housband is apostate !!
If you don't play by their rules, they will do whatever is neccessary to protect their flock from you.
rutherford began the millions campaign in 1918. new light suggests that he was obviously talking about babies who were born that year and now, in 2014 they would only be 96 years old.. .
i was looking through a census bureau report on people aged 90+ in the united states 2006-2008, with projections to the year 2050. according to the chart provided there are about 2 million people just in the united states that are over 90 years old.
we could conservatively cut that number in half to reach the 96 year-olds and then add in the rest of the world's figures.. .
There was more to the talk than just the title, so there is no way to reinvent the message of the campaign to stop him looking like a nutter.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/112986341?searchTerm=million%20living%20die&searchLimits=
Chronologically, the "Times of Res-
titution" begin in 1925, when dying
will gradually cease. "And God shall
wipe away all tears from their eyes.
AND THERE SHALL BE NO MORE DEATH.
i was fortunate to be recommended for a sales position by a former colleague.
the company phoned me and we set up an interview.
i accepted their offer - it is nearly double what i earn at the moment.
Great news, LouBelle
tectured vegetable protien.
substitutes for meat.
do you like it?.
I longer eat processed foods. When I did, I tried TVP and wasn't impressed with the texture or the flavour.
Eventually, I figuered that it didn't add up that something so highly processed could be better for us than what our ancestors ate as they evolved into what we are today.
*** Waves to Talesin ***
one of my best friend's, who is an ex elder had two elders visit him at his home yesterday to invite him to the memorial.
he was cordial to them because they were'nt over the top.. so far, i have had no invites, thank god..
Everyone in my street has been invited except me.
so... i'm writing because i have mixed feelings.
keeping my kids safe is my goal... until they are old enough to understand and reason on their own.
my mother gave me the tapes (that i gave her back in december) of combating mind control by steven hassan, saying that she didn't have a tape player... reminded me of three years ago when i gave her crisis of conscience by ray franz and she said it's to big book to read and she's not a reader.
Apologies to LisaRose, but her advice could cost you your relationship with your children forever.
I wish garybuss was still around to put you straight on that one. Best to learn from other people's mistakes than your own.
His advice, after making this mistake, went something like this .... Never leave your kids alone with a practicing, preaching JW. Last I remember hearing is that his kids still shun him.
I thought it was because he was showing off by killing fig trees, which steals from widows and travellers, and killing thousands of pigs, which wrecks the local economies.
